PRT - Unsafe at Any Speed

Passenger Safety Concerns Sparks Wikipedia "Reversion War"

An April 5th, 2005 post on a Seattle Yahoo e-mail list reveals an argument PRT Proponents are having about passenger safety. The argument concerns this part of the PRT page in the Wikipedia online encyclopaedia:


Sitting, restrained passengers can tolerate emergency stops at 6 gravities (59 m/s©ò), a deceleration like a more exciting roller coaster. At 6 G (59 m/s©ò), 70 mph (115 km/h) vehicles stop in 0.52 seconds, about 27 feet (8 m).


The reason PRT pods have to decelerate so quickly is the pods are supposed to travel tightly packed on the guideways ( to get the high capacities comparable to conventinal transit such as BRT or LRT ). With headways measured in inches or less, emergency braking would cause huge pile-ups unless all the pods lined up bumper to bumper simultaneously stop on a dime...but, if that were possible, how would that effect passengers?


Here's two hilarious excerpts from the Yahoo post by Bob Dunning, President of ATTA, Advanced Transit Association:

> > I believe it to be seriously wrong. Our own tests show that the peak
> > deceleration for unrestrained seated passengers is 6 m/s/s ie one
> tenth
> > of the quoted level. Even at this level some of our older female
> > passengers (eg my wife) were thrown to the floor. At the deceleration
> > levels quoted such passengers would simply continue out through the
> > windscreen.
> >
> > I suspect that whoever wrote this got confused between 6 m/s/s
> and 6 g
> > . In combat aircraft pilot are known to pass out at 6 g


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I dont feel we should plan to subject PRT passengers to this (and
> even
> > if this were planned there is the non-trivial problem of
> designing the
> > rest of the vehicle to absorb these extremely high g loads)
> >
> > On the assumption that you agree with my view of this rather than the
> > Wikipedia version I suggest that one key objective of ATRA should
> be to
> > remove stuff like this from the public domain, where in my
> opinion it is
> > just as, and perhaps even more, damaging than the roadkill site
> >
> > Your views would be welcomed
> >
> > Martin

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